Praise the Lord (As Long As He’s Paying)

Posted in Politics, Prosperity Gospel, Religion with tags , , , , , on August 27, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

Several high profile advocates of the ‘Prosperity Gospel‘, a largely Pentecostal sect which believes that tithing and other works for God will make you economically

David Yonggi Cho, a Korean Prosperity Gospel Minister

prosperous, have come under investigation by the U.S. Government – most noteably Chuck Grassley, a Senator from Iowa, who opened a probe in order to make sure that these ministries complied with non-profit laws. Of course, Grassley doesn’t give a shit about the financial ethics or legal soundness of these ministries, what he is after is political capital. Political capital with the Democrat-Progressives for busting these crazy televangelists, political capital with the Republican-Progressives for going after ‘exploitive’ pseudo-Fundamentalist sects and with the bureaucracy of the Federal Government for finding a way to nail these people for millions on tax evasion.

Outside of their legal difficulties, advocates of the Prosperity Gospel face criticism from other Christian sects who feel that these televangelist and megachurch millionaires are exploiting their flock in order to get rich by offering a garbled, nonsensical pseudo-Christianity and outrageous un-Biblical promises. Of course given that the Bible is self-contradictory and Christianity is garbled mystical nonsense, I hardly see any barb to their accusations. These televangelists are giving people what they want, and the dying breed of more classical Christianity is just complaining because it can’t compete. The Prosperity Gospel, whether or not it has any basis in Biblical texts, is probably the sanest and most productive Christian ministry I’ve ever seen. Various Christian websites and ministers sling stones at folks like Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch for their obviously incredible wealth, palatial mansions and jet-setting lifestyle. Reports of minor infidelities or marriage troubles are blown up to be massive issues; even though these folks have usually managed to remain married longer than the majority of their flock ever have – probably partly due to the vast amount of money at their disposal; making it possible for Daddy to work in Bermuda and Mommy to vacation in San Diego when things get rocky.

Benny Hinn's Kick-Ass Gulfstream Jet

The anti-capitalists at the gates will have none of this, however, wealth to them is an offense in and of itself (unless it is possessed by a non-Christian entertainer without half the business sense of Joel Osteen). The Progressives target the Christian Capitalists more so because they are capitalist, and the fact that they represent a sort of liberal Christianity (which idiot Progressives, unable to distinguish between Nazis and Republicans, often conflate with Fundamentalism) is just an additional goad.

Paul Crouch, one of the founders of Trinity Broadcasting Network

Frankly, as far as I can tell, all these Prosperity Gospel evangelicals are making money without resorting to any more deception than is involved in the Catholic Church or Harvard Universities, they don’t rely on political connections, monopoly grants or inflationary credit to expand their Jeweled Jesus Empires and most of their money comes in without any contractual agreement whatsoever to provide anything in particular. Which makes them better than most of the companies in Fortune Magazine.

At the core of what the Prosperity Gospel teaches seems to be that prosperity is good, conspicuous wealth is a sign of ability and will and doing well for yourself is more important than theological sectarianism*. Amen.

*Paul Crouch once said that if he didn’t shoot the heresy hunters, God would.

Ideological Indifference and Personal Intolerance

Posted in Arguments/Debates, Intellectual History with tags , , , , , , , , , on August 27, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

I have recently decided upon a ‘zero-tolerance’ policy for all the the media I communicate in, which in the case of forums (totally worthless) means locking/deleting my account altogether and in the case of ‘social networks’ like Facebook simply involved deleting all religious people, conservatives, lefties, etc. The reasons for this are as follows:

1. Debating with idiots is pointless.
2. Debating with religious people is pointless.
3. Forums are invariably 75% + of the above, thus swamping any meaningful discussion with stupid bullshit.
4. Short and rapidly issued arguments are highly inadequate for any complex subject, especially one which involves many popular misconceptions.
5. Long, detailed and referenced posts are inevitably made worthless by the mass of mental retards that make up the internet.
6. Almost invariably no one I talk to will actually have the requisite background to be even able to comprehend my arguments, and I am certainly not inclined to become his schoolteacher.
7. Chances are I don’t just disagree with you, I personally dislike you.
8. If I cared about your opinion I’d read the book you butchered it from.

Note that this applies to the blog, too, any comments involving something I don’t care about discussing will just be deleted.

Some of you may question the intellectual integrity of such a position. Thankfully, I have other things to do than give a fuck what you think.

The Argument of No Authority

Posted in Intellectual History, Libertarianism, Politics with tags , , , , , , on August 24, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

A Brief Review of “The Constitution of No Authority” by Lysander Spooner

Originally Posted at the Liberating Minds forum on Fri Mar 06, 2009

As much as I agree with Spooner’s analysis of the state’s basic nature, this quote does not really establish anything pertinent with respect to the question of ‘authority’. The coercive nature of the State (and its contrast with private contract law) are not really in dispute. His entire argument rest on citing a ‘natural’ right or rights.

Hume and Anthony de Jasay’s work on law and custom influenced my critique of Spooner, as did many natural law critiques such as L.A. Rollins’ The Myth of Natural Rights.

Summary of Spooner’s Argument

In No Treason (among other works) Spooner critiques governments for failing to have a contractual claim to its property-interference. For him, Men have a natural right (a claim) to be treated according to a contract law-tort system. As no one has contractually assumed an obligation to the State, the State has no claim against them. Property violation or threats by the state, for want of a contract establishing such a right for the State, must then be torts (forbidden acts). I will argue that he fails to demonstrate that States are not legitimate and also fails to establish a coherent position for his critiques. I will do so by examining what I understand to be the foundation of his anti-state position. I will primarily refer to No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority, as I believe it best summarizes his basic anti-state position. I have not found remedies for the problems I cite here in his major essays. I have chosen not to cite or quote Spooner as No Treason and most of his other works are widely available, brief and eminently readable, and since that would take more effort.

Principle Premises and Arguments of Spooner

1) The existence of rights.
2) The nature of such ‘rights’ as natural.
3) The identification of such rights as tort and contract law.
4) The supposition that tort/contract law applies to States.

In reply to his premises
1) Rights are the opposite side of duties. If one person has a right to something, someone else has an obligation to provide it to him. Yet, in contract law, rights and duties are only established by contract.

2) ‘Natural rights’ is a further deepening of the hole. As I have argued elsewhere, it is literally false to claim that humans have a ‘nature’, since they are all distinct entities with (at best) some commonalities. That he views these duties as ‘natural’ Spooner implies that such rights and duties are inherent, not a product of custom, intuition or statute but inherently binding. Thus Spooner is here making a claim that people have a duty to those they have never made any agreement with, and others consequentially have claims against such persons; and that a person can not choose to ‘opt out’ of such duties, bound eternally regardless of his own preferences, aims and agreements. This directly contradicts his central thesis, that men have no duty to others (and consequentially others have no rights against them) unless they voluntarily agree to them. Spooner at no point clarifies or defends his position on ‘rights’. As I consider Spooner quite obviously intelligent, and since he had a considerable knowledge of law, I find it hard to believed he was unaware of what a ‘right’ was. Yet he does not differentiate his use of ‘right’ from contract law, nor imply that any such difference exists. He does not defend the assertion that ‘rights’ – contractual or of some other variety – can be anything but contractual obligations, and does not explain why such rights are ‘natural’. He does not even explain what he means by ‘natural’. He does not establish why other possible rights – customary, statutory, religious or merely asserted – are not viable alternatives to ‘natural’ rights.

3) Spooner identifies rights (claims and obligations) with tort and contract law. This is problematic. Torts are, by definition, prohibited. What sense does it make to say that someone has an obligation not to do what is prohibited? This is either nonsensical or redundant. And to assert that one has a ‘right’ to have others obey contract law and others have a duty not to violate it is just as redundant and nonsensical. In contract law, a right is established by contract, and corresponding duties are taken up by another party. As I have pointed out, this is precisely what rights are. He essentially says that men have a contractual claim to contractually establish rights, and other men have a contractual duty to contractually assume duties. What does that even mean? Not only are these identifications nonsensical and repetitive, the rights which supposedly grant voluntary rights are called ‘natural’, IE involuntary and automatic. What sort of beast is a positive claim to only be bound by contractually assumed positive claims? Spooner does not establish why his ‘natural rights’ are contract and tort law. Given the historical differences in contract and tort law, why the Anglo-Germanic variety? Why not Roman, Babylonian, 5th century Chinese or Mosaic laws? Democratic ‘rights’? Why are natural rights akin to any specific legal tradition? Unfortunately, Spooner does not defend his selection of jurisprudence are ‘naturally’ rights nor instruct us on why or why not other possible legal traditions are rejected.

4) Although Spooner presents rights as virtually identical with the practice of contract and tort law, he nonetheless does not stay consistent here. Where? Precisely in his insistence that the same rules apply to everyone. For Spooner, contract and tort law apply equally to all individuals regardless of what other characteristics they have. But this is not so. Contract and tort law have always recognized the legitimacy of special institutions such as States and religious authorities. Unlimited state authority has not typically been defended by Anglo-Germanic common law, but the basic functions of the state (raising revenue, raising armies, assuming certain prerogatives in the conduct of civil society) are taken as a given. It has never been illegal to be the king, even when kings did not have a hand in legislative and court systems. Typically what is demanded is that certain forms and customs are followed when the State, Church or other entity of ‘Status’ engages its prerogative. Exemption from such prerogatives, properly conducted, is not recognized simply because no personal contract exists or because (conducted by others) they would be considered a tort.

Why does Spooner follow Anglo-Germanic common law so rigorously, using its procedures (signature, for example) as demonstrative arguments, yet deny the existence and propriety of status-based entities? He does not give reason for this departure from Common-Law. He does not even seem to acknowledge that it exists. But he must be aware of Status as a principle and practice in common law, for it is in fact the target of his criticism. But before he can use common law to argue against Status, he must explain why Status in common law is invalid.

If he is not basing his construction of natural rights directly on common (tort/contract) law, he does not indicate what source he is using. And if he does have something in mind other than Common Law, how is it that arguments identical to what would be deployed in the case of (partial) contract and tort law are still valid outside of actual common law? In other words, if his arguments are not based on common law but another principle why is it that these pseudo-common law standards are valid?

Conclusion

Spooner asserts that all men have a natural and automatic (non-contractual) right to be exempt from all rights not established by contract. Consequentially, someone else (whom?) must have a duty to exempt all men from rights not established by contract. This is self-contradictory.

He asserts that men have a right not to have forbidden things done to them (torts), consequentially other men must have a duty not to do forbidden things. This is simply redundant.

Deploying these ‘rights’ against the State, Spooner uses the principles of contract law to demonstrate that men have not formed a contract with the state and thus the state has no right against him, or he a duty towards it. But the existence of non-contractual natural rights itself contradicts contract law. If rights are created by contract then no such rights exist, and if such rights exist they must (to be consistent) demonstrate an exception in the case of ‘natural rights’.

In addition, despite his use of contract and tort law as arguments against the State, he ignores the tradition, practice and often formal principle of Status; IE the existence of entities with special prerogatives which exempt them from normal considerations of tort and contract law. He does not explain why this exemption is invalid, especially problematic since he is apparently commited to at least one exception (natural rights). His position entails that natural and automatic claims and obligations which exist regardless of contract, whose defense does not involve tortious action, yet whose violation does involve tortious action. But how is this any different than Status claims, specifically those of the State? The State affirms non-contractual obligations by others, and non-contractual claims for itself. Within its prerogatives defense of such non-contractual claims are not considered tortious, while violation against them is considered tortious.

Going on to use his reformulated contract-law which men have ‘natural right’ to he ‘proves’ that the State is illegitimate by pointing out its nonconformity with said law. Status/Prerogatives are denied for everyone but ghostly ‘natural rights’, and then Spooner claims he has ‘proven’ that State prerogatives do not exist, and consequentially States violate ‘natural rights’. This is simple begging the question.

Spooner fails to present a consistent argument, does not justify his premises and does not even acknowledge the apparent contradictions or dubiously meaningful statements. If he used the standard definitions he contradicts himself. If he uses alternative definitions, he does not share them with us. Neither does he reference any other philosopher who might provide such answers. In any case, Spooner’s No Treason fails in its central claim of State illegitimacy. This failure is a surprisingly amateur one for a man who possessed such erudition.

To treat Spooner’s legitimacy arguments (as well as those of Rothbard, Rand, Locke) as though they were obviously true shows a want of rigor in reasoning, as well as ignorance of the field of political philosophy, ethics, meta-ethics and jurisprudence. It’s no surprise that few people take their ethics and political philosophy seriously. Almost any philosopher perceived as sufficiently ‘libertarian’ will find adherents, whatever glaring faults their actual ideas may have. Worse than this, many libertarians will use mutually incompatible philosophical positions. This kind of self-undermining is what makes mainstream economics a laughingstock to libertarians, and it would be wise for people who promote some kind of libertarianism to avoid duplicating it.

The Chinese Connexion

Posted in Asians, Economics, Libertarianism, Politics, Race with tags , , , on August 20, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary
I have noticed a lot of libertarians have absolutely ignorant ideas of what China is like, which they accept
basically without question from the liberal and conservative media. They’re authoritarian, repressive, socialist, etc. The stupidest complaint I’ve ever heard was from Cato, who argued that because China is not democratic their growing economy makes them a threat, which is just the Beltway Libertards Sucking the Cox Populai as usual.
In response to a typical spiel about how Chinese wealth is illusory from a Conservative over at AEI I said:
China’s cost of living and economic fundamentals are better than the USA. They have very low regulations, practically no welfare, tax evasion is near universal and their central government is very weak.They do suffer from nepotism and some protectionist policies, as well as inflation, but overall they’re superior to the USA in economic policy. They just happen to be much poorer as it is.
Also, you are far less likely to be harassed by the police in China, including for making black market transactions (except drugs). Prostitutes are easily obtainable in hotels, and the cops don’t even look twice at you as you buy pirated software on the street corner and get picked up by a cab run by the mafia (these cabs are cheaper than the state-licensed ones).
You can start a business there with very low capital, doing damn near anything you want, and unless you make a lot of money nobody asks for permits, licenses, building codes, etc. etc.
So, no, China isn’t wealthy – they are poor. But they’re a lot more likely to become wealthy than the US is to remain wealthy.
Aside from the economic points it is the case that far more Chinese accept the ‘free enterprise’ system as the model for the future than the United States or Europe, and that you are far less likely to ostracized for what you say or think in China – the only thing that’s really illegal is political organization; and I can’t see why a libertarian should think that mob intimidation and populism should be anyways. The central government is incredibly weak, and has really no power over the people in the countryside and never has – the mass killings in even Maoist China were grass-roots, not Soviet-style. As I said, tax evasion is nearly universal, and almost never prosecuted.
According to numerous studies and surveys, far more Chinese were open to free-markets and trade, and a reduction of government intervention, than in any of the European or American countries. At the same time Economics in One Lesson is a best-seller in China. These Chinese have very low-to-no debt, save an incredible amount of their money, tend to own or lease their properties (except for city workers), and quite frankly are harder working and more intelligent than Europeans and Americans. They’re far more socially integrated and very few of them buy into the Progressive/Democratic propaganda that the United States insists everyone in the world be converted to accepting by force.
Links:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Stefan-Karlsson-s-Blog/2010/0706/When-will-China-s-economy-become-bigger-than-ours
http://stefanmikarlsson.blogspot.com/search?q=china
http://mises.org/daily/1804
http://blog.mises.org/6105/china-raises-reserve-requirements-again/
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285686
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/43433/20100815/interview-jim-rogers-on-chinese-economy-yuan-policy-and-gm.htm
http://www.businessinsider.com/jim-rogers-if-you-want-your-heirs-to-be-wealthy-then-leave-america-and-move-to-asia-2010-8

American Exceptionalism

Posted in American Revolution, Conservatism, Economics, History, Intellectual History, Libertarianism, Politics with tags , , , on August 19, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

Conservatives often assume the U.S. has a higher per capita income than Europe due to its less interventionist policies. However, this really isn’t necessarily true at all. The U.S. also wasn’t the battle field for the two greatest wars in human history, and relative to its number of combatants and civilians suffered very low casualties and damages. Furthermore after WW2 the American Imperialist financial and banking system funneled in wealth while simeaultaneously retarding the progress of economic development in other parts of the world. I don’t really see much evidence that the American government has been less interventionist than Germany since WW2; and given the total devastation and the fact that half of Germany was ruled by Communists for 40+ years the fact that Germany is so close to us in per capita income it is may indicate that Germany was in fact LESS interventionist in many key areas.

Likewise, American conservatives often assert that the United States was ‘infected’ with various liberal, Progressive and socialist doctrines which came to America from the Continent. The real fact of the matter is that America thought up most of these doctrines and exported them to Europe where they became more radicalized. This has been true since the American Revolution, if not earlier.

American Exceptionalism – ideologically – is largely a myth; the U.S. – taking into account the damage wrought by social engineering and military expansionism – is in many ways worse off than many parts of Europe, and in areas where it is better it isn’t by a lot.

American Exceptionalism – industrially and economically – has basically been dead or at least  in serious decline since at least WW1. It just so happened that some other countries declined ever faster.

On the other hand given how bad the American government has been, it is a surprise that it isn’t worse. But as Bismarck said, “God has a special providence for fools, drunkards and the United States.”

Conceived in Liberty

Murray Rothbard’s Ideological History

Claiming there was some sort of libertarian consesus in the colonies (much less the mother country) is highly unsustainable – especially among the populace, who were either motivated by basically theocratic or agrarian-populist motives. Rothbard confuses Puritan radicalism and propaganda with the sort of libertarian propaganda he promotes. Just because someone argues for ‘property’ or ‘natural rights’ doesn’t mean they have in mind the doctrine of laissez-faire, which would have been anachronistic. In my opinion the American Revolution did far more damage to market-and-property societies than any advantage it ever conferred.

On top of that not a single one of the Founding Fathers had views that could be descriped as substantially libertarian; even folks like Jefferson and Paine had so many interventionist, democratic and proto-socialist leanings that their system never would have been anything like anarcho-capitalism if they had been free to exercise it. The notion that the American Revolution was libertarian, even in theory, is sheer mythology.

Hamilton: Conscription or Slavery?

Posted in Alternative Right, American Revolution, Blacks, History, Politics, Race, Slavery with tags , , , , on August 15, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

“I foresee that this project will have to combat much opposition from prejudice and self-interest. The contempt we have been taught to entertain for the blacks, makes us fancy many things that are founded neither in reason nor experience; and an unwillingness to part with property of so valuable a kind will furnish a thousand arguments to show the impracticability or pernicious tendency of a scheme which requires such a sacrifice. But it should be considered, that if we do not make use of them in this way, the enemy probably will; and that the best way to counteract the temptations they will hold out will be to offer them ourselves. An essential part of the plan is to give them their freedom with their muskets. This will secure their fidelity, animate their courage, and I believe will have a good influence upon those who remain, by opening a door to their emancipation. This circumstance, I confess, has no small weight in inducing me to wish the success of the project; for the dictates of humanity and true policy equally interest me in favour of this unfortunate class of men.” – Alexander Hamilton to John Jay

This sounds like a decent plan, though in typical Hamiltonian fashion Alexander has linked personal liberty and republicanism to militarism and the central government; making the strongest central association of blacks military service. Indeed, it almost as though he intends to make emancipation dependent upon military conscription.

Conservatives: Ignorance Be Thy Muse

Posted in Conservatism, Intellectual History, Politics with tags , , on August 6, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

Conservatives are less intelligent than liberals. No ‘conservative’ scholar can compare to the the liberal elite class in raw brain power. Any scholar of merit, who is not a liberal, is not a conservative. He is either a libertarian or a weirdo. Someone like Michael Oakeshott would be repelled to be associated with these brainless, populist incompetents.

Conservatives go around confusing capitalism with wall street, defense with world empire, republican government with freedom and Christianity with ethics. They don’t know the first thing about philosophy or economics. Though they often like to soil the good name of libertarian and anti-leftist writers, they have likely never read these authors and would be appalled if they did.

The stupidity of conservatives is paramount when confronted by anything seriously critical of a Republican administration, the American Revolution, foreign policy or nationalist identarianism. Partly this is because they do not understand these things for what they are – left-wing big government collectivism – and partly because they are, themselves, a variant of left-liberals – left-wing big government collectivists.

The left often accuses conservatives of being racist, but this isn’t true. Rather they present a More-PC-Than-Thou attitude, going to extreme lengths to prove that it’s really the left-wing who are racists and fascists. Speaking of fascism, a litmus test can be easily conjectured. If you support big government programs, world-wide ideological crusades and anti-fascist rhetoric you are a left-winger. Yet this is exactly what the halcyon days in conservative mythology are: World War 2.

Other authors more interested than me have gone on at great length about how the anti-war sort who distrusted centralized government were expelled from the Conservative movement from World War 2’s jingoistic patriotism up through Bill “Finally Dead” Buckley, Jr.’s rotary socialism. What that finally gave us were the Neo-Conservatives, who are basically Lovestonites and Trotskyites calling themselves ‘conservative’. More than that the Republican party has been, from its inception, the party of centralized government, warfare, welfare, printing-press fiat money and economic regulation.

Conservatives, of course, know none of this. That’s because they’re idiots.

Links:

http://shams.talkislam.info/2010/07/23/four-reasons-the-emergent-iq-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

Poor Marx

Posted in Communism, History, Intellectual History, Politics, Socialism with tags , , , , on August 4, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

I have just finished Isaiah Berlin’s Karl Marx: His Life and Environment. I can’t say I recommend it.

Karl Marx: His Life and Environment by Isaiah Berlin

What's with the text for a face?

A short ways into the book it becomes apparent that Berlin is going to present the book primarily from a Communist perspective. Berlin is not a Communist but a left-liberal, known in Europe as a social democrat or (more honestly) as a communist. Given Berlin’s history of making spurious distinctions (negative/positive liberty, Fox/Hedgehog) it is not surprising that his views on Karl Marx are not tempered by theoretical criticism or even any kind of frank historical analysis. This is, instead, a book about a Communist by a communist for communists. Which means no criticism of Marx either personally or ideologically, and no touching upon anything which will reflect negatively; like the fact that he was an unemployable scum-bag who constantly begged money and refused to get a real job and take care of his family. These things are but minor personal foibles in someone Berlin sees as a grand ideologist and forerunner of the liberation of mankind.

As I read the book I can not help but be reminded of Lord Bertrand Russell, who was supremely uncharitable with anyone who didn’t tow the left-liberal line and essentially parroted the kind of meaningless democratic swill which one has come to expect from twentieth century liberals.

Don’t read this book. Not only is it an absurdly rosy and apologetic picture of Karl Marx and his work, it isn’t even informative.

A Note on Anti-Colonialism

Posted in History, Politics, Race with tags , , on July 29, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

This started as a reply to Austin Cline, who runs an Atheism blog for About.com. In it, Cline says:

Hinderaker doesn’t know any more about British colonialism (in India or elsewhere) than he does about evolution. It’s absolutely true that colonial powers added some value to their colonies — for example, in places like infrastructure. They failed in more significant areas, however — areas that would have allowed for post-colonial societies to succeed. These areas include education and local banking, for example.

I would suggest that Cline knows just as little about Colonialism, and since he is parroting the neoliberal/democrat line right here it evidences that he is basically economically ignorant.

First of all, why would it have been necessary for the colonial governments to ‘provide’ banking and ‘education’. It certainly hasn’t done a lot of good in the West when the government has ‘provided’ these ‘services’, and at the same time most countries in the West and the East provided these long before there was any kind of centralized government. Perhaps the failing is not with the colonial powers (who I am not defending, in particular, I think colonialism is a waste of money) but instead with the intellectual, cultural and social organization of the previously occupied cultures. Most of these countries basically fell apart when the white colonists left. Not because of some mysterious exegesis of ‘banking’ or ‘education’ which had never been present before the colonization anyway, rather it was because the local regimes and local populace were ignorant, criminal and infected with western ideas like welfarism, nationalism and socialism. It’s no wonder they turned into cesspools of civil war and slavery; and with the exception of China and a handful of other east-asian countries, they remain so to this day.

Those who blame the West for the failure of their former colonies are simply presenting the myth of the ‘white man’s burden’ all over again; the simple fact is that these countries suck for reasons largely their own fault.

Better Nazi than Red

Posted in Uncategorized on July 19, 2010 by capitalistrevolutionary

I am in support of Marxist and National Socialist liberation movements, not because of their socialism, but because of their opposition to global democracy and the New World Order. Better national socialism than global socialism. As the anarchist-capitalist Murray Rotbard said,

The recent rioting and virtual civil war in Northern Ireland points out, both for libertarians and for the world at large, the vital importance of pushing for and attaining the goal of national liberation for all oppressed people. Aside from being a necessary condition to the achievement of justice, national liberation is the only solution to the great world problems of territorial disputes and oppressive national rule. Yet, all too many anarchists and libertarians mistakenly scorn the idea of national liberation and independence as simply setting up more nation-states; they tragically do not realize that, taking this stand, they become in the concrete, objective supporters of the bloated, imperialistic nation-states of today.

Murray Rothbard on national liberation.